On 28 August, 2014, your humble narrator had the honor of conducting an interview with Jewell James of the Lummi Nation, Master Carver and Director of the Sovereignty and Treaty Protection Office with the Lummi Nation. We recorded our interview at St. Mark’s Cathedral in Seattle with the giant organ playing in the background. The conversation included the artistic process and some of the design decision making process of crafting totem poles, the dreams he hoped the totems would awaken in their viewers, and his effort to raise awareness and organize opposition to the export of coal from Wyoming and Montana through ports like the proposed Cherry Point. Thanks to the immense efforts of Jewell and many other Indigenous and Eco-activist leaders, the terminal that was proposed to send more than 50 million annual tons of coal to Asian markets through Cherry Point was prevented from becoming a reality. Read more about the Totem Pole Journey that started after 9/11 here. Find the original recordings of this interview with Jewell James on this blog post from 2014, Fighting Coal Trains With Totem Poles. Check out more of what the Lab does at https://cascadiapoeticslab.org/, and listen to more current and archival podcasts at https://cascadiapoeticslab.org/cascadian-prophets-podcast-2/.